VWNorge

here's how i painted my car for about $50, it's actually very easy and the results are amazing. First off, get a can of tremclad real orange (or what ever color u want) in the can, not spray, yes tremclad, it is a acrylic/enamel paint which is very durable. next prep your car as if was any other paint job, fix all the rust, ect....no need to prime the car since the tremclad allready contains elements which allow it to be painted over bare metal. next, after prepping the car get a small 4" professional FOAM rollers, it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and the other cut straight, and is a very high density foam. u also need a jug of mineral spirits to thin the paint. The thing i really like about this is that there's no mess, no tapeing the whole car, just key areas, and u can do it in your garage, since your not spraying there is virtually no dust in the air, just clean your garage first, also it does'nt really smell at all, dries overnight and it super tough paint. also it you decide to paint the car professionally later, just prep and paint, there's no need to strip the tremclad. i have done this to a few cars, and i can say it works amazing, u just have to be paitient. next u thin the paint with mineral spirits so it just about as thin as water, a little thicker. get out the roller and paint away, don't get the paint shaked when u buy it, enamel is stirred, otherwise you'll have bubbles in the paint for a week!!! after u do 2 coats, wet sand the whole car, then repeat, 2 coats, wetsand, 2 coats wetsand. i painted the charger using a can since your not spraying the car u use all the paint and not spray 50% in the air, use progressivly finer sand paper each time. it's not really that much work, cause u can stop and start any time, u can do just a door, or the hood, ect. do one panel at a time, and don't stop once you start. once your done the final coat, wetsand with about 1000 grit to a totally smooth finish, and then using a high speed polisher i use a buffing bonnet and turtle wax polishing compound. do the whole car with this, and i'm telling u, depending on the amount of time and paitence you have, the results are amazing. laugh if you want, but for $50 ($30 for paint, about $20 for rollers, sand paper, ect...) it really looks good. also you can do these steps overnight, paint one evening and by morning u can wet sand. i have personally done alot of painting, mostly single stage acrylic enamel, and i've sprayed several cars in my garage with really good professional results, just it stinks, it's a real pain to do, easy to make a mistake, messy, and expensive. The tremclad is awesome paint, the "real orange" is an amazing hemi orange, and almost looks like it has some perl in the sun, awesome color right out of the can. I used this technique on my 1974 beetle also, here are the results:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/Picture10.jpg
the car before:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/IM000475.jpg
another after pic:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC00164.jpg
here is a car i sprayed (71 beetle, midnight blue metalic):
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC00194.jpg
here is the car before (71 beetle):
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/Picture1.jpg

here's a few pics of the charger done:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC02764.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC02769.jpg

well that's my 2 cents worth, sorry for the long post. i was borred lol
i painted the orange beetle in 1999, and it still looks like the day i painted it, the 71 blue beetle i painted in 2000, and built the car for my dad, i used the same paint on my charger, maybe one day i'll spring for a good paint job, prepping is 90% of the work, stripping the car, sanding, ect.....painting is overrated!!!
So if you have TIME, then i'd say go for it, the worst that could happen is that it does'nt turn out and your out $50, but if your paitient, and expriement with lets say just the trunk pannel and if you like it do the whole car, if not just get it done by someone else for $4000. i don't know about you guys, but i would rather spend the $4000 on other parts like getting the mechanics sorted out and new chrome, cause when u have really nice paint and crappy bumpers, door handles it just sticks out more.

Jeg har ihvertfall stor tro på denne fyrens teknikk:


Sjekk ut bildene så ser du at resultatet er veldig bra, med tanke på hvor lite det koster i forhold til en profesjonell lakkering.

Joa, blir nok ingen "eplehagelakking" her..

guys all i have to tell you is that i first painted a 85 honda crx at my cottage in 1 day, i had no money, i did like 3 coats with no sanding and it looked great, i should scan that old pic and show you!!!. The job only looks as good as the time and effort that you put into it. the paint is extreemly durable, think about it, it's used to paint over rusted metal on things like tractors, metal railings, ect... and stand the elements. it is formulated to do just that. the tequnique is critical, u have to have a "feel" for how much to thin the paint and u have to use mineral spirits, not paint thinner like varsol. I could not even imagine how well it would turn out if you sprayed it with a HVLP gun and wet sanded and polished. It does "self Level" on the sides just as it does on the flat level surfaces. Like i said before it is critical on how you thin the paint and how you apply it. i did the charger in about 3 days. i got sick of going to body shops and them telling me either they don't do classic cars and if they did want to do the car i need at least $5000 even though the car was stripped and prepped!!!! the auto painting industry is in my opinion a total rip off so if you want it done right and cheep, do it yourself!!! when the paint is thinned your barley putting on any paint with each coat, so you really need to do about 6 coats to get enough of a base so you can wet sand and polish. it took me a long time to figure out what steps to take to get awesome results. my 74 bug looks awesome even after 6 years the paint is still mint. looks like the day i did it. that paint dries FAST, so literally you can wetsand overnight. Keep in mind i know a little about painting, i've shoot a few cars with single stage enamel with professional results, but it's expensive and tedious. I used duplicolor paint, primer, reducer and primer sealer on this car:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC00194.jpg
it looked like this before paint:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/Picture1.jpg
that car was painted midnight metalic blue, and flips awesome in the sun. a very hard color to do cause it's almost black and shows every imperfection. but as you can see in the pic it came out awesome. but the materials alone (paint, reducer, primer, primer sealer) cost about $250 CDN, which was alot, never mind the work.
the "tremclad" paint is really a awesome alternetive, since your rollering it on there's no dust and you get a really clean paint job if you do it in your garage, where if you spray theres a battle with dust.
when i painted with the Tremclad i just use the paint, no primer, nothing, just the paint, right over bondo. like i mentioned before after wetsanding use a random orbit polisher and the cheapest POLISHING COMPOUND made by turtle wax, it comes in a paste in a small round flat container and it's white, allmost looks like hand cream and smells good too!!! I find that after thinning the paint with mineral spirits the paint "flashes" or dries really quickly, and after a overnight period it is completely dry, unlike automotive paint which takes up to 6 months to fully "cure" so litterally the next day you can sand, buff, polish, and wax the paint. on the charger the paint looks really good, i did not take a huge amount of time to perfect it because i really really wanted to drive it!!!. in the spring i plan on wetsanding and polishing it more, but yes it looks like the pics, really good. considering that it cost me about $50 i love it and i'm not paranoid about juicing it on a dirt road and going sideways worring about my precious paint job, i drive the car, hard and alot, after all is'nt that what they're made for? for $50 and a few days of work i can paint it again in a few years!!!! If your not good with your hands, and not a real detail person let someone else paint your car cause it can get ugly really fast!!!! if i had a shop, made a little paint booth and sprayed this stuff on and wetsanded and polished it, i'm sure i could paint show quality cars with $30 worth of paint. keep in mind this paint is really good, like i said bofore i bought a can 3 yrs later to repaint a fender on my 74 beatle and it was dead on for color match, that must tell you about the quality of the paint, i'd give you $100 if you could tell me which fender i painted on this car in person, and its' right out of the can:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC00164.jpg
keep in mind that you must still prep the car as you would with any other paint job, prepping is all the work and reflects the overall result.
i did not block sand the car just wetsand progressivly finer paper by HAND, no machine, no block nothing. using any "block" to sand i found the paper got dirty fast and got all plugged up, so do it by hand and keep it really wet, using a spray bottle in one hand and a clean bucket of water and a shammy (dollar store!!!)to clean it off to see how it looks. i prepped the car with 80, then 100, then 200, finished with a 400, did all my body work, and painted. after 2 coats (about 4hrs work for the whole car) i wetsanded with a 600, then did 2 more coats, wetsand with 800, 2 more coats and sand with a 1000-1500 and polish, followed by wax, done......

Au, den kjente jeg :)

Du vil få et mye bedre resultat hvis du sprøyter bengalakken på.
Bland ca 4 deler lakk med 1 del herder og en del lakk tynner altså 4-1-1.

Slip ned hele bilen med 500 papir å vask med silikonfjærner før du lakker.

Problemet er at eg ikkje har eit område eg kan stå i der det er ok med lakkstøv. Lakk og rull, derimot.. Nema problem.

Det blir jo IKKE pent, eneste måten er å sprøyte lakkere bilen, det er det eneste som blir bra, Kost og rull blir helt forferdelig.    Nesten å ødelegge bilen med slikt.

Jeje, deg gidd eg i alle fall ikkje å bruke krefter på å omvende. Men du kan jo ta jobben med å lese innlegga over.

Nei det er vel heller jeg som må omvende deg, driver litt med lakkering så ingen skal komme å fortelle meg att rull blir pent. Det blir helt jævelig.  Er du glad i bilen din så tenker du overhode ikke på å lakkere med rull. Tror du bør prøve å innse sannheten her, å ikke drite deg ut, for det er det du gjør vist du rullemaler bilen.

Det blir jo IKKE pent, eneste måten er å sprøyte lakkere bilen, det er det eneste som blir bra, Kost og rull blir helt forferdelig.    Nesten å ødelegge bilen med slikt.

Det blir jo IKKE pent, eneste måten er å sprøyte lakkere bilen, det er det eneste som blir bra, Kost og rull blir helt forferdelig.    Nesten å ødelegge bilen med slikt.

"Jeg har lakkert mye å jeg vet at dette dere snakker om her med rull å greier er helt bak mål."
 "Rette måten er jo bare å lakkere bilen, skal da ikke vere nødvendig å slipe ned å polere opp etter lakkeringa :o Hvem i all verden gjør slikt ? Rein juks er det"

KJØP DERE BRILLER OG  EN DVD ELLER BOK OM LAKKERING SÅ SKJØNNER DERE HVA JEG MENER :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Har også rulla lakk på et par biler..Senest på bobla mi..Brukte bengalakk i begge tilfeller...På den bobla jeg har nå testa jeg også om det gikk an å legge 2K klarlakk over bengalakken, det gikk uten noen problemer...

Jeg lakka bilen min sist helg med quick lakk.....kostet meg 700 kr.

Ps hvordan setter jeg inn bilder her?

rulla du ut k lakken å?prøvde på det en gang men da blei den tåkete istede for klar?


Nei den sprøyta jeg på.....ok men er det nødvendig med klar lakk? hvist jeg har forstått dette riktik,så er det rulling og våtpuss etterpå?+polering da

Jeg bruke faktisk sprøytepistol............har tilgang på en stor vaskehall............men det ble jo litt lakkstøv og noen tørre flater.

Men blillig ble det.............og den grå fargen var litt vanskelig å lakk når man ikke hadde godt nok lys

ps er ikke brukt klarlakk på bilen....kun quick lakk

fant en link på temaet. virker litt mer utfyllende en den tråden muligens. http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.htmlr

hei fant ut at jernia fører rustoleum spraybokser i allefall. kanskje de kan skaffe noe?

Interessant.
Dette er hva jeg foreløpig fikk høre fra Rustoleum avd. Nord-Europa;

Harald

We do have some albeit limited distribution in Norway and these products are
manufactured in Holland please see our website www.ro-m.com

I have copied in our Export sales Manager who is currently on vacation and
he will make contact on his return to see if we have any mutual
opportunities.

Many thanks for the interest in our company


Cheers

Steve Winrow
European Commercial Director IBG

Au, den kjente jeg :)

Var jo mye debatt rundt dette på vw2you når davidlarue eller whiteXmas som han vel nå kaller seg gjorde det på samba-bussen sin. Kanskje han kan bidra med tips og bilder av resultatet?

I den gamle prosjekttråden min fra vw2you kan du se hvordan det ble med Benga og rulle, type fort gjort på en kveld opplegg, men det blei nesten gratis og da ;D

Resultatet ble bedre enn forventet, og kunne sikkert blitt mye bedre med grundigere grunnarbeid og to strøk istedet for ett tjukkt.

Har sett hobby-sprøyta biler som så værre ut enn min " i hu og hast"-rullemalte, så det er ikke alltid sprøyting er best, det har nok mer å si med gubben som holder i sprøyta, kvaliteten på alle produkter involvert og ikke minst på forarbeidet.

Rulling er fin fint det til low-budget-bruksbil-opplegg eller lignendes. Ang, utstillings-finish, så er det jo så mye rart som stilles ut etter hvert, så da kan en vel bare parkere med rat-look gutta eller noe, så er jo den saken også løst :D

http://vw2you.com/cgi-bin/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=24&TID=3073&SID=3307

Takk for linken! ;D Den skal riktignok være http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html, for de som evt. ikke skjønte det :) Øverst på siden anbefaler han International Brightsides marine lakk, som visstnok krever færre strøk enn RustOleum. International produkter selges av båtrekvisitaforhandlere over hele landet (se www.yachtpaint.com, velg norsk). Dog eksisterer denne Brightside-lakken kun i 4 farger på yachtpaint.com (hvit, klarrød, oceanblå og svart), og man kan antakelig glemme "$50 paint job" i det man går inn i båtbutikken.

Til nå har vi sett at "69chargeryeehaa" på moparts.org forumet, og webmasteren på Rickwrench.com har lakkert bilene sine med Tremclad Rust Paint (www.rustoleum.com). Seks år etter førstenevnte rullet bobla si med "27007 Real Orange", sier han lakken ser ut som da den var ny. "Rickwrench" valgte "27025 Gloss White" og er fortsatt like fornøyd etter 1 års tid.

Tremclad Rust Paint finnes i 35 farger. I Tremclad serien har de et eget produkt kalt "tint base", som skal kunne gi opptil 104 forskjellige farger. Dette virker som å være en base man blander inn i en annen farge for å "bleke" den. (Rød blir rosa osv.) Om det er mulig å lakkere med vanlig billakk over disse produktene, er høyst usikkert...
MEN de har og noen farger kalt Automotive Rust Paint. Gul, rød, svart, mattsvart, hvit, sølv.
"Can be used as a corrosion resistant primer for automotive lacquer top coats"

For ordens skyld så er mineral spirit mer kjent som white spirit i Europa, hvilket man tynner disse produktene med :)

Jeg skal rullemale en sliten polo nå, og lurer på et par ting etter å ha lest denne tråden.

Hvor mye skal bengalakken tynnes ut?
Går det an å tynne ut med "tynner"? Kanskje dumt spørsmål, men det var nå det de anbefalte på jernia...ser noen her skriver whitesprit, så jeg ble litt usikker...

et kjapt søk på biltema så fant jeg det vet du! Men hva vil tilsvare rustOleum her i norge? blir det bengalakk, hammerlakk? Noen?

hahaha vet hva det er rent oversatt, men hvis du skal se på det på en bilmessig måte så vet jeg ikke hva det er. Bilvoks, lakkrens, bilshampoo osv got it, men rubber har jeg ikke vært borti enda. Vil du ha mer forklaring så se på nicket mitt ;) ;D